for this reason i say that israel is a terrorist state and its acts are terrorist acts. so, we had that face-off at the state department, jim, and there was more of it. we only showed about a third of that actual exchange. was the reporter right to be pushing her in that way? >> that's certainly a new ap. he was expressing the opinion. look the state department's in a hard spot here, turkey is an n.a.t.o. ally and i don't agree that israel is a terrorist state and i'm sure hillary clinton and the state department don't either, but the way the camera makes it look, she's sort of on the-- nuland is on the defensive and she's got her job to do with 150 state world capitals watching. it was a little bit of an ambush on the state department. >> jon: pretty amazing statement, i think, from t theithe turkish minister, how did they react. >> almost no. i'm going to wait for the article that says that turkey has just disqualified itself as an intermediater, as a mediator in this conflict. i didn't see that statement. i didn't see that story. it's really amazing the way turkey is-